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Post by jimmers on Apr 15, 2016 17:47:00 GMT -5
Not wanting to find out firsthand if BEHR glueless was an issue in their exterior line, I opted for Glidden's Fortis 350. It was our first exterior of the year being in Michigan. We were painting white over white. It was faded pretty bad so I assumed it would be a definite 2 coater. To my surprise, only a few areas needed a second coat. Overall, I liked this paint and will probably use it on the next house. Definitely head and shoulders above SW's A-100 IMHO. Anyone else use this?
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Post by Mikes Custom Painting on Apr 15, 2016 18:38:29 GMT -5
Not wanting to find out firsthand if BEHR glueless was an issue in their exterior line, I opted for Glidden's Fortis 350. It was our first exterior of the year being in Michigan. We were painting white over white. It was faded pretty bad so I assumed it would be a definite 2 coater. To my surprise, only a few areas needed a second coat. Overall, I liked this paint and will probably use it on the next house. Definitely head and shoulders above SW's A-100 IMHO. Anyone else use this? I use to use Fortis Exterior exclusively when I first started painting. I was one of the few guy in Hawaii to use it because it was expensive and contractors like using cheap ass paint. It was very thick stuff and dried really quickly on the brush. Too quickly! but seemed to be very durable, except for the mildew control was horrible. Back then, there was no 350 or 450. It was just plain Fortis. Then a few years ago ICI Dulux got bought out by someone else and changed all the labels and re worked the formulas and all of a sudden there's an Interior and the numbers showed up. The 350 is not as good as the 450 (according to PPG). How did you find the paint? Was it thick? Adhesion? Oh yea, the other thing that happened with Fortis, is that it had issues when used over the Gripper Primer (which was from the same company) so they started recommending people to use some other Primer. |
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Post by jimmers on Apr 15, 2016 18:56:49 GMT -5
The white base wasn't bad to work with. Not really sure on adhesion. I can only judge by how it washed off my hands. Seemed average. I may try the 450 on the next exterior. I get a great discount at the local PPG. $22 a gallon for the 350 compared to over $30 for A-100. What's everybody else's "go to" exterior paint??
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Post by Mikes Custom Painting on Apr 15, 2016 19:15:33 GMT -5
The white base wasn't bad to work with. Not really sure on adhesion. I can only judge by how it washed off my hands. Seemed average. I may try the 450 on the next exterior. I get a great discount at the local PPG. $22 a gallon for the 350 compared to over $30 for A-100. What's everybody else's "go to" exterior paint?? I've been using Duration lately. Too soon to tell on longivity. But seems to grip well. |
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Post by johnb on Apr 15, 2016 19:25:16 GMT -5
The white base wasn't bad to work with. Not really sure on adhesion. I can only judge by how it washed off my hands. Seemed average. I may try the 450 on the next exterior. I get a great discount at the local PPG. $22 a gallon for the 350 compared to over $30 for A-100. What's everybody else's "go to" exterior paint?? $30 a gallon for a100? Are you serious? |
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Post by jimmers on Apr 15, 2016 19:35:31 GMT -5
The white base wasn't bad to work with. Not really sure on adhesion. I can only judge by how it washed off my hands. Seemed average. I may try the 450 on the next exterior. I get a great discount at the local PPG. $22 a gallon for the 350 compared to over $30 for A-100. What's everybody else's "go to" exterior paint?? $30 a gallon for a100? Are you serious? Yup. SW doesn't budge a whole lot on price up here in Yankeeville. One of the many reasons why I usually go elsewhere. |
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Post by Jack Pauhl on Apr 15, 2016 20:10:19 GMT -5
Fortis was the exterior paint we used prior to Behr so I'll be looking into trying Fortis again real soon. Another local painter had a weird problem 2 years ago with 350. I recall seeing Super Paint on a few of his last jobs. Not sure if he switched, but I'll follow-up with him. Almost time to catch up on exteriors from winter homes.
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Post by Mikes Custom Painting on Apr 16, 2016 1:31:46 GMT -5
The white base wasn't bad to work with. Not really sure on adhesion. I can only judge by how it washed off my hands. Seemed average. I may try the 450 on the next exterior. I get a great discount at the local PPG. $22 a gallon for the 350 compared to over $30 for A-100. What's everybody else's "go to" exterior paint?? $30 a gallon for a100? Are you serious? Yea, isn't that the cheap stuff (as in crapy)! |
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Post by Mikes Custom Painting on Apr 16, 2016 1:51:36 GMT -5
Fortis was the exterior paint we used prior to Behr so I'll be looking into trying Fortis again real soon. Another local painter had a weird problem 2 years ago with 350. I recall seeing Super Paint on a few of his last jobs. Not sure if he switched, but I'll follow-up with him. Almost time to catch up on exteriors from winter homes. Brian, I'm surprised You liked the Fortis. You usually aren't much for fast drying, thick paints. From My experience, they don't come any faster drying or thicker than that. But then again, I haven't used it in many years. |
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Post by Jack Pauhl on Apr 16, 2016 7:17:41 GMT -5
Fortis was the exterior paint we used prior to Behr so I'll be looking into trying Fortis again real soon. Another local painter had a weird problem 2 years ago with 350. I recall seeing Super Paint on a few of his last jobs. Not sure if he switched, but I'll follow-up with him. Almost time to catch up on exteriors from winter homes. Brian, I'm surprised You liked the Fortis. You usually aren't much for fast drying, thick paints. From My experience, they don't come any faster drying or thicker than that. But then again, I haven't used it in many years. You have to think like I was thinking back in 2005 when most paints were thick. The first time I tried Behr Ultra, I popped the lid of a quart and held the can upside down. The paint wouldn't fall out of the can. |
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Post by Mikes Custom Painting on Apr 16, 2016 16:08:03 GMT -5
Brian, I'm surprised You liked the Fortis. You usually aren't much for fast drying, thick paints. From My experience, they don't come any faster drying or thicker than that. But then again, I haven't used it in many years. You have to think like I was thinking back in 2005 when most paints were thick. The first time I tried Behr Ultra, I popped the lid of a quart and held the can upside down. The paint wouldn't fall out of the can. Wait, was that a slip? You said "Behr Ultra"? I don't ever remember seeing Ultra thick at all, and I used it when it first came out. |
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Post by jimmers on Apr 16, 2016 16:16:04 GMT -5
You have to think like I was thinking back in 2005 when most paints were thick. The first time I tried Behr Ultra, I popped the lid of a quart and held the can upside down. The paint wouldn't fall out of the can. Wait, was that a slip? You said "Behr Ultra"? I don't ever remember seeing Ultra thick at all, and I used it when it first came out. The exterior is thick. I've always diluted it a little with water. |
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Post by Jack Pauhl on Apr 16, 2016 16:21:08 GMT -5
Wait, was that a slip? You said "Behr Ultra"? I don't ever remember seeing Ultra thick at all, and I used it when it first came out. The exterior is thick. I've always diluted it a little with water. No slip. Ultra Exterior was thick. I'm sure I have pics somewhere. |
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Post by Mikes Custom Painting on Apr 16, 2016 17:09:10 GMT -5
The exterior is thick. I've always diluted it a little with water. No slip. Ultra Exterior was thick. I'm sure I have pics somewhere. Hmmm... Maybe I was so used to using Fortis at the time, it seemed thin by comparison. |
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